Joe Rogan is once again concerned about the rise of artificial intelligence. On a recent episode of his podcast, The Joe Rogan Experience, he was joined by the hosts of the “Triggernometry” podcast. About halfway into the episode, Rogan dove into how artificial intelligence could impact our jobs and even reshape the way we run society – including who holds power.
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Rogan talked about the possibility of AI advancing to the point where we might consider using it to govern. He laid out a scenario where AI makes objective decisions for the betterment of humanity. Rogan fears that it will get to a point where people ask, “Why don’t we use AI for government and have a really objective government that doesn’t have greed, lust, desire or the need for power … It doesn’t ever tweet out ‘I hate Taylor Swift.' It just runs everything with the objective of making the world better.”
Rogan didn’t stop there. He pointed out that AI could potentially lead us to question why we even need corporations to control natural resources. “Why should we have these corporations that control all the oil when the oil is in the ground – the ground belongs to humans?” he asked. To Rogan, the concept of a few corporations having significant control over vital resources seemed fundamentally unfair.
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Rogan also shared his fears about where this might go wrong. He noted that an “objective” AI could easily decide that the root of many problems is simply … us. That possibility, he said, is the real risk when you have something that’s ultimately trying to maximize outcomes without the messiness of human morality.
The conversation also covered how AI and automation could completely change the workforce. From road construction robots in China to automated cargo systems, Rogan argued that people whose jobs are being replaced by machines have every reason to be worried. He said, “If you’re a guy whose livelihood depends on that, you should be terrified.”
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The discussion painted a stark picture of an impending future in which AI replaces not only manual jobs like trucking but also highly skilled work like graphic design, coding and accounting. “Not just middle class – but all the coders,” Rogan noted, pointing out that AI won’t stop at physical tasks.
Rogan and his guests didn’t shy away from the broader implications of all this. They talked about what it means for a society when large portions of the population depend entirely on government handouts because their jobs no longer exist. If people rely on universal basic income and have no leverage, it could create a “defeated population” with no reason or ability to push back against those in power.
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