Joe Rogan Says, ‘There’s No Ideal Place To Live,’ But Peter Thiel Highlights Two Cities In The U.S. Says They’re ‘Paradoxical’
Is there such a thing as a perfect place to live? Not in Joe Rogan’s opinion. In “The Joe Rogan Experience,” episode 2190, Rogan and billionaire business owner Peter Thiel discussed the challenges of deciding which city to call home. The discussion touched on everything from zero-tax states to weather preferences and city vibes – and, as expected, there were no simple answers.
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Rogan: “No Ideal Place Exists”
Rogan began the discussion by dismissing the notion that there is a single city that meets all requirements. “It's not like California sucks, so there's another place that's got it all figured out,” he stated. Despite its amazing weather and natural beauty, California has a high cost of living and high taxes. Rogan moved from California to Austin, Texas, during the pandemic, acknowledging that it was a difficult choice.
“California's amazing as long as the Earth doesn't move,” he joked about the state's earthquakes. Despite its flaws, he acknowledged its near-perfect climate is hard to beat.
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Thiel: The “Paradoxical” Cities That Shine
Peter Thiel agreed that perfection is elusive. He pointed out that choosing where to live often depends on balancing trade-offs. Thiel examined zero-tax states, which seem appealing on paper but found most lacked vibrant cities. States like Alaska, Wyoming and South Dakota don't offer the urban energy many seek.
For Thiel, the best options were two cities: Miami, Florida and Nashville, Tennessee.
“Miami has this paradoxical vibe,” he said, describing how the city balances its tourist-heavy party reputation with livable neighborhoods that feel worlds apart from the chaos. Conversely, Nashville offers a “real” and authentic feel, making it another standout choice.
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Rogan Pushes Back on Miami
While Thiel praised Miami, Rogan wasn't entirely sold. “Miami's fun, but I wouldn't want to live there,” Rogan said, pointing to its wild nightlife and fast-paced energy. Thiel countered that the city's day-to-day life differs from the tourist hot spots, but both acknowledged that Miami's unique charm isn't for everyone.
Nashville, however, got no objections from Rogan, who admitted he could see himself living there without a problem.
The Weather Dilemma
Another big factor in the debate was the weather. Thiel admitted that California's coastal climate is hard to compete with. “There's no place besides coastal California where you have really good weather year-round in the U.S., maybe Hawaii,” he said. Rogan, now accustomed to Austin's sweltering summers, argued that heat is more manageable than extreme cold. “Cold can kill you,” he quipped. “If you live in Wyoming and break down on the road in winter, you could die. That's real.”
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