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Leading cryptocurrencies edged higher Thursday as traders returned from New Year's break with bullish optimism.
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<td>Bitcoin (CRYPTO: <a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/quote/btc/usd">BTC</a>)</td>
<td>+2.06%</td>
<td>$96,841.51</td>
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<td>Ethereum (CRYPTO: <a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/quote/eth/usd">ETH</a>) &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</td>
<td>+1.93%</td>
<td>$3,450.93</td>
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<td>Dogecoin (CRYPTO: <a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/quote/doge/usd">DOGE</a>)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</td>
<td>+0.77%</td>
<td>$0.3381</td>
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What Happened: Bitcoin surged to $97,700 late afternoon as upward volatility returned to the market. The leading cryptocurrency lost steam since the $100,000 tease on Christmas, but the latest uptick has taken its weekly gains into the green
Ethereum almost touched $3,500 in the morning before retreating to the $3,500 zone.
The market has high expectations that the incoming Donald Trump administration will bring a <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/25/01/42773793/trump-taking-office-could-spell-golden-crypto-era-industry-hopes" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">golden era</a> for cryptocurrencies.
Cryptocurrency liquidations hit $175 million in the last 24 hours, with nearly $83 million in upside bets getting wiped out.
Bitcoin's Open Interest rose by 0.99%, while Ethereum witnessed higher speculative interest with a 3% jump in funds locked in unsettled derivatives.
The percentage of traders placing long positions on Bitcoin dropped from 62% to 54% in the last 24 hours, according to Long/Short Ratio.
That said, markets became more greedy, according to the Crypto Fear &amp; Greed Index, hinting at a potential surge in buying pressure.
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<td>Fartcoin (FARTCOIN)</td>
<td>+34.07%</td>
<td>$1.34</td>
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<td>DeXe (DEXE)</td>
<td>+33.02%</td>
<td>$19.79</td>
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<td>$1.22</td>
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The global cryptocurrency market capitalization stood at $3.41 trillion, following a spike of 2.52% in the last 24 hours.
Stocks closed in the red in Wall Street's first trading session in 2025. The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 151.95 points, or 0.36%, to close at 42,392.27. The S&amp;P 500 slipped 0.22%, ending at 5,868.55, while the tech-focused Nasdaq Composite dipped 0.16% to end at 19,280.79.
Cryptocurrency-related stocks rose during Thursday's trading session, with both MicroStrategy Inc. (NASDAQ:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/MSTR#NASDAQ">MSTR</a>) and Coinbase Global, Inc. (NASDAQ:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/COIN#NASDAQ">COIN</a>) closing 3.59% higher.
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Analyst Notes: Influential cryptocurrency analyst Rekt Capital presented their outlook for 2025.
"2025 will likely see the BTC bull market peak and the very beginnings of a brand new bear market," the analyst projected. "The majority of the bear market will take place, however, in 2026."
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-width="500" data-dnt="true">2025 will likely see the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/BTC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#BTC</a> Bull Market peak and the very beginnings of a brand new Bear Market The majority of the Bear Market will take place however in 2026 The Bear Market would last some 365+ days and be between -65% to -80% deep<a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%24BTC&amp;src=ctag&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">$BTC</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Crypto?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Crypto</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bitcoin?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bitcoin</a>
&mdash; Rekt Capital (@rektcapital) <a href="https://twitter.com/rektcapital/status/1874936923611136161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2025</a></blockquote>
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Well-known on-chain analytics firm CryptoQuant stated that the bull market was far from ending, citing on-chain indicators like network fees and miner sell-offs.
"On-chain data suggests the bull market is still intact, and the current phase appears to be a cooling-off period rather than a cycle peak," the firm added. "However, short-term price movements remain unpredictable."
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-width="500" data-dnt="true">We Are Still in the Midst of a Bull Market "On-chain data suggests the bull market is still intact, and the current phase appears to be a cooling-off period rather than a cycle peak." – By <a href="https://twitter.com/avocado_onchain?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Avocado_onchain</a> See the data &#x1f447;<a href="https://t.co/HvMD44Lm7e">https://t.co/HvMD44Lm7e</a> <a href="https://t.co/YCSpl0lIHC">pic.twitter.com/YCSpl0lIHC</a>
&mdash; CryptoQuant.com (@cryptoquant_com) <a href="https://twitter.com/cryptoquant_com/status/1874884377815220703?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2025</a></blockquote>
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Bitcoin, Ethereum, Dogecoin Lift As Traders Anticipate 'Golden Crypto Era' Under Trump: Top Analyst Says 2025 Will See Bull Market Peak

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) took to X on Thursday to challenge Elon Musk&#8217;s endorsement of the H-1B visa program, arguing it exploits foreign workers and undermines American jobs.
What Happened: Sanders posted his disagreement with Musk&#8217;s stance on the H-1B visa program. He argued that the program&#8217;s main function is not to hire top talent, as Musk suggests, but to replace well-paying American jobs with low-wage foreign workers. Sanders stated, &#8220;The cheaper the labor they hire, the more money the billionaires make.&#8221;
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-width="500" data-dnt="true">Elon Musk is wrong. The main function of the H-1B visa program is not to hire "the best and the brightest," but rather to replace good-paying American jobs with low-wage indentured servants from abroad. The cheaper the labor they hire, the more money the billionaires make. <a href="https://t.co/Mwz7i9TcSM">pic.twitter.com/Mwz7i9TcSM</a>
&mdash; Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) <a href="https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1874918027982172626?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 2, 2025</a></blockquote>
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In a statement attached to his post on X, Sanders noted that the top 30 corporations using the H1-B program laid off at least 85,000 American workers while they hired over 34,000 H1-B guest workers.
&#8220;There are estimates that as many as 33 percent of all new Information Technology jobs in America are being filled by guest workers,&#8221; said Sanders. He cited Census Bureau data to say that millions of Americans with advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering and math are currently not working in related professions.
Giving the specific example of Musk&#8217;s Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/TSLA#NASDAQ">TSLA</a>), Sanders asked if H1-B jobs are going to the &#8220;best and brightest&#8221; and why Tesla has employed guest workers as associate accountants for as little as $58,000 and associate mechanical engineers for as little as $70,000 a year.
&#8220;If there is really a shortage of skilled tech workers in America, why did Tesla lay-off over 7,500 American workers this year,&#8221; asked Sanders.
Sanders said that the H1-B visa program should only be utilized as a &#8220;very short-term and temporary approach.&#8221; In his statement he also supporter raising the minimum wage for guest workers and allowing them to easily switch jobs. He advocated that corporations be required to aggressively recruit American workers before they can hire from overseas.
Tesla did not immediately respond to <a href="https://pro.benzinga.com/dashboard">Benzinga&#8217;s</a> request for comments.
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Why It Matters: Musk&#8217;s support for the H-1B visa program aligns with President-elect Donald Trump&#8217;s <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/news/24/12/42715951/trump-backs-immigration-visas-musk-praises-his-stance-and-says-rising-tide-lifts-all-boats">backing of the initiative. </a>
&#8220;I have many H-1B visas on my properties. I&#8217;ve been a believer in H-1B. I have used it many times. It&#8217;s a great program,&#8221; said Trump.
This marks a surprising shift from Trump&#8217;s previous administration, which had imposed restrictions on such visas. The tech sector, including influential figures like Department of Government Efficiency co-leads Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, has <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/government/regulations/24/12/42713690/musk-and-ramaswamy-back-foreign-tech-workers-sparking-rift-in-maga-trump-camp-twitter-firestorm">long championed</a> the H-1B visa program, arguing it enables U.S. companies to hire thousands of foreign engineers and specialists annually. However, this stance has ignited a social media firestorm among Trump&#8217;s far-right base.
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Bernie Sanders Says Elon Musk Wrong On Tech Guest Worker Program: H1-B Visa Purpose Is To 'Replace Good-Paying American Jobs'

During his presidential campaign, Donald Trump promised to impose tariffs on certain Chinese imports, such as solar panels. Although economists still debate whether <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/analyst-ratings/analyst-color/24/12/42699729/ark-invests-cathie-wood-urges-trumps-incoming-administration-to-implement-retroactive-tax-cuts-for-economic-boost-from-january-1">Trump's tariffs</a> will benefit America's economy, domestic solar producers certainly stand to gain if Trump follows through on his promises. One such company is First Solar.
Although Donald Trump is known to be a big proponent of fossil fuels, aspects of his "America First" policies could spur further development in America's green energy. A recent International Energy Agency (IEA) report shows that solar energy is the only renewable energy technology currently being developed quickly enough to help the world make meaningful progress toward achieving net-zero emission targets by 2050.
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That's good news from a climate-change perspective, but many global circles are concerned about the extent to which Chinese solar production is outpacing that of its international competition. A study from Ember Energy revealed that China's solar panel export volume increased by 34% in 2023 and it now accounts for 80% of the world's solar panel manufacturing.
China's global lead is not an accident. In 2012, China's state energy policy called for a massive investment in renewable energy technology, such as solar panels, lithium-ion batteries and electric cars. The size of that investment is believed to have been hundreds of billions and a decade later, China's dominance of the solar panel industry proves the investment is paying off.
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Regardless of how you feel about Donald Trump or his tariffs, having a global rival control 80% of an industry that is key to the world's efforts to combat climate change leaves the United States in a difficult position. For example, if regional tensions over Taiwan should flare up, China could halt the delivery of solar panels to the U.S. and continue selling them to Europe, Africa and the Middle East.
This is where companies like First Solar come into the picture. This Tempe, Arizona-based company focuses on building advanced solar components for large-scale solar operations that public utility companies would build. First Solar has quietly expanded its operational capabilities and manufacturing footprint through the years. Its new facilities in Alabama and Ohio are designed to deliver 12 Gigawatts of power annually.
First Solar had a strong Q3 2024, generating $887 million in revenue (per public filings and Barchart), a year-on-year improvement of nearly 11%. The company's earnings per share (EPS) also jumped by 16% and currently sit at $2.91. The Q4 2024 numbers saw the company miss revenue expectations and lower its 2025 EPS forecast.
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That said, it's worth noting that First Solar is still predicting an EPS of $13-$13.50 in 2025. More importantly, First Solar may not have to wait for Trump's tariffs to increase profits. The United States Department of Commerce recently announced tariffs between 21% and 271% for Chinese solar panels sold through subsidiaries in Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand and Malaysia.
These tariffs, classified as "antidumping duties," were instituted to keep Chinese-based manufacturers from dumping their massive stockpiles of unused solar panels on non-Chinese companies, who would presumably then sell them to the US. Piper Sandler analyst Kashy Harrison believes First Solar could benefit massively from this development.
According to Benzinga's latest estimates,<a href="https://www.benzinga.com/quote/FSLR"> First Solar stock</a> is trading at $182, but analysts have a near-universal consensus that First Solar is primed for a strong 2025. Kashy Harrison has raised his price estimate to $250 (up from $210) and<a href="https://www.benzinga.com/quote/FSLR/analyst-ratings"> Benzinga's survey of 29 different analysts</a> reveals an even higher consensus price target of $274.38. If First Solar hits those targets, this stock could light up your portfolio with strong profits.
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American Express (NYSE:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/AXP#NYSE">AXP</a>) has outperformed the market over the past 5 years by 6.7% on an annualized basis producing an average annual return of 19.32%. Currently, American Express has a market capitalization of $210.23 billion. 
Buying $1000 In AXP: If an investor had bought $1000 of AXP stock 5 years ago, it would be worth $2,405.53 today based on a price of $298.43 for AXP at the time of writing.
<h3>American Express's Performance Over Last 5 Years</h3>
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Finally -- what's the point of all this? The key insight to take from this article is to note how much of a difference compounded returns can make in your cash growth over a period of time.
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$1000 Invested In This Stock 5 Years Ago Would Be Worth This Much Today

Ryan Reynolds, the guy most people know as Deadpool, has quietly been building an empire worth talking about. While his comedic timing and charm have made him a Hollywood darling, his business moves might be even more impressive.&nbsp;
Forbes recently reported that the companies he's co-owned or sold are valued at a <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/general/24/01/36875491/ryan-reynolds-co-owned-or-sold-companies-are-valued-at-14-billion-but-he-says-thank-god-i-am-not-run">jaw-dropping $14 billion</a>. That's right – billion with a B. And yet, when asked about his role in these ventures, Reynolds casually quipped, "Thank God I am not running the company." Humble much?+
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The man's portfolio is as eclectic as it gets: an F1 team, a football club (the other kind of football), a gin brand, a wireless provider and even an advertising agency. It's not just about slapping his name on a product either. Reynolds has mastered the art of turning everyday businesses into cultural phenomena, often using his signature wit and relatability to make it happen.
Take Aviation American Gin, for example. When Reynolds bought a stake, he didn't just throw money at it – he became the face and voice of the brand. His tongue-in-cheek marketing campaigns helped skyrocket its popularity, ultimately leading to its $610 million sale to Diageo in 2020. That's not a win; that's a master class in branding.
Then there's Mint Mobile. Under Reynolds' watchful eye (and cheeky commercials), the wireless provider went from a scrappy underdog to a billion-dollar success story. When T-Mobile acquired it for <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/startups/24/08/40105515/ryan-reynolds-sold-2-companies-for-2-billion-now-hes-investing-in-clothing-cant-be-good-at-something">$1.35 billion in 2023,</a> Reynolds stayed on as a spokesperson because he knows a good gig when he sees one.
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But Reynolds isn't pretending to be some business genius. In fact, he's refreshingly candid about how much he doesn't know. When discussing his investment in fintech company Nuvei Corp. on Squawk Box, he admitted, "I know nothing about fintech," adding with a laugh, "Thank God I am not running the company." Instead, he leans on strong teams and "emotional investing." Translation: He bets on brands with good stories to tell and the potential to resonate with consumers personally.
As Reynolds explained, "How does this happen if you look at a gin company, a wireless company and a Welsh football club? They don't go together, but they all had strong brand foundations." He has a knack for spotting opportunities where others might not, turning those opportunities into authentic, memorable narratives.
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In an August 2018 interview on The Tonight Show, Jimmy Fallon asked Ryan Reynolds how he got involved with Aviation Gin. With his trademark humor, Reynolds explained, "It's an American gin. Little smoother than our British counterparts, little pro-drinkable." Then, catching himself, he joked, "Uh, wow, I sound like a pro." Fallon laughed and agreed, prompting Reynolds to add, "I know nothing about gin. If I ran the company for real, it'd be on fire."
This mix of <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/startups/24/05/38811005/ryan-reynolds-sold-mint-mobile-for-1-35-billion-now-hes-invested-in-the-apparel-company-for-travis-k">intuition, humor and strategic marketing</a> makes his approach unique. It's also fueling his climb toward billionaire status – not bad for a guy who still jokes about being clueless half the time. Whether or not he officially joins the billionaire club soon, one thing's clear: Ryan Reynolds isn't just playing the game; he's rewriting the rules.
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Ryan Reynolds Sold 2 Companies For $2 Billion In Just 4 Years But Says He's Not An Expert – 'If I Ran The Company For Real, It'd Be On Fire'

Ensign Group (NASDAQ:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/ENSG#NASDAQ">ENSG</a>) has outperformed the market over the past 5 years by 11.3% on an annualized basis producing an average annual return of 23.91%. Currently, Ensign Group has a market capitalization of $7.61 billion. 
Buying $1000 In ENSG: If an investor had bought $1000 of ENSG stock 5 years ago, it would be worth $2,905.53 today based on a price of $132.87 for ENSG at the time of writing.
<h3>Ensign Group's Performance Over Last 5 Years</h3>
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Finally -- what's the point of all this? The key insight to take from this article is to note how much of a difference compounded returns can make in your cash growth over a period of time.
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A battle between Elon Musk and Sam Altman over the new course of OpenAI was one of the bigger stories for 2024 in the <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/topic/artificial-intelligence">artificial intelligence sector.</a>
With the case far from closed, the well-known "Godfather of AI" Geoffrey Hinton is weighing in and taking sides.
What Happened: A <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/24/11/42022920/sam-altman-slams-elon-musks-left-wing-bias-claims-over-chatgpt-responds-to-grok-vs-gpt-debate-with-bold-remarks-but-tesla-ceo-says-swindly-sam-is-at-it-again">push by OpenAI </a>to turn into a for-profit structure from a current nonprofit has prompted a legal attempt by Musk to block the change.
Musk, who is an original co-founder and investor in OpenAI, has spoken out about the planned for-profit change and is now gaining support from one of the biggest names in the AI sector.
"OpenAI was founded as an explicitly safety-focused nonprofit and made a variety of safety-related promises in its charter," Hinton said in a statement Monday published by youth-led advocacy group <a href="https://encodeai.org/encode-backs-legal-challenge-to-openais-for-profit-switch/">Encode</a>.
Hinton said OpenAI received benefits like tax breaks thanks to its nonprofit status.
"Allowing it to tear all of that up when it becomes inconvenient sends a very bad message to other actors in the ecosystem," Hinton said, as <a href="https://nypost.com/2024/12/31/business/geoffrey-hinton-backs-elon-musks-legal-battle-against-openai/">reported </a>by the New York Post.
Hinton, who won the <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/news/24/10/41233245/ai-godfather-geoffrey-hinton-wins-nobel-prize-for-artificial-intelligence-work-work-has-already-been">2024 Nobel Prize</a> in October, has spoken out against OpenAI in the past.
In October, Hinton said Altman is "much less concerned with safety than with profits." Hinton has also expressed regrets for his role in helping develop AI, which could now be used for negative items.
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Why It's Important: Founded in 2015 as a nonprofit research lab, OpenAI has become one of the largest companies by valuation in the space. The company created a capped-profit model in 2019 with the nonprofit holding control of the entire company.
The company has said that switching to a for-profit model will help "to raise the necessary capital with conventional terms like others in the space."
The lawsuit by Musk comes as he cut his relationship with OpenAI in 2018 and his lawsuit attempts come as he recently launched his own AI company xAI, a competitor to the company he co-founded.
Musk said that OpenAI executives "deceived" him in the past. OpenAI countered recently by saying Musk wanted a for-profit structure for the company in 2017.
The billionaire's lawsuit was first filed in early 2023 related to OpenAI's partnership with Microsoft Corp. (NASDAQ:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/MSFT#NASDAQ">MSFT</a>), which he alleged broke the company's nonprofit commitment.
Altman <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/24/12/42609769/elon-musk-is-a-legendary-entrepreneur-but-also-a-bully-says-openai-ceo-sam-altman-now-its-me-its-been-bezos-gates-zuckerberg-lots-of-other-people">recently showed appreciation</a> for what Musk did to help support OpenAI "in the early days," but shared new criticism of the billionaire.
"He's also clearly a bully and he's also someone who clearly likes to get in fights. Now it's me, it's been Bezos, Gates, Zuckerberg lots of other people," Altman said.
In the battle against OpenAI, Musk has now gained recent support from Meta Platforms Inc (NASDAQ:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/META#NASDAQ">META</a>) and the &#8220;Godfather of AI,&#8221; which could make the fight against Altman and OpenAI a must-watch story in 2025.
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Novo Nordisk (NYSE:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/NVO#NYSE">NVO</a>) has outperformed the market over the past 10 years by 4.09% on an annualized basis producing an average annual return of 15.28%. Currently, Novo Nordisk has a market capitalization of $389.06 billion. 
Buying $1000 In NVO: If an investor had bought $1000 of NVO stock 10 years ago, it would be worth $4,177.57 today based on a price of $87.60 for NVO at the time of writing.
<h3>Novo Nordisk's Performance Over Last 10 Years</h3>
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Finally -- what's the point of all this? The key insight to take from this article is to note how much of a difference compounded returns can make in your cash growth over a period of time.
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Here's How Much $1000 Invested In Novo Nordisk 10 Years Ago Would Be Worth Today

Ault &amp; Company has the right to purchase up to $25 million in shares of Hyperscale Data's Series G Convertible Preferred Stock in compliance with the federal securities laws.
Ault &amp; Company continues to believe that the current stock price of the Common Stock is below Hyperdrive Data's long-term intrinsic value per share and believes that an investment in the Preferred Shares demonstrates the continued commitment of Ault &amp; Company to supporting Hyperscale Data and its stockholders.

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Norfolk Southern (NYSE:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/NSC#NYSE">NSC</a>) has outperformed the market over the past 20 years by 3.76% on an annualized basis producing an average annual return of 12.08%. Currently, Norfolk Southern has a market capitalization of $53.08 billion. 
Buying $100 In NSC: If an investor had bought $100 of NSC stock 20 years ago, it would be worth $969.69 today based on a price of $234.60 for NSC at the time of writing.
<h3>Norfolk Southern's Performance Over Last 20 Years</h3>
<img src="https://www.benzinga.com/files/images/story/2025/1735858810_0.png" alt="comp_fig" />
Finally -- what's the point of all this? The key insight to take from this article is to note how much of a difference compounded returns can make in your cash growth over a period of time.
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If You Invested $100 In This Stock 20 Years Ago, You Would Have This Much Today

On December 31, 2024, the Board of Directors of Annaly Capital authorized a new common share repurchase program and a new preferred share repurchase program, each of which shall expire on December 31, 2029.

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Annaly Capital Management Plans Repurchase Of Up To $1.5B Of Its Outstanding Shares Of Common Stock - Filing

Fair Isaac (NYSE:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/FICO#NYSE">FICO</a>) has outperformed the market over the past 5 years by 26.11% on an annualized basis producing an average annual return of 38.72%. Currently, Fair Isaac has a market capitalization of $48.94 billion. 
Buying $100 In FICO: If an investor had bought $100 of FICO stock 5 years ago, it would be worth $519.77 today based on a price of $1995.92 for FICO at the time of writing.
<h3>Fair Isaac's Performance Over Last 5 Years</h3>
<img src="https://www.benzinga.com/files/images/story/2025/1735857908_0.png" alt="comp_fig" />
Finally -- what's the point of all this? The key insight to take from this article is to note how much of a difference compounded returns can make in your cash growth over a period of time.
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Here's How Much $100 Invested In Fair Isaac 5 Years Ago Would Be Worth Today

One of the more unusual trades by a member of Congress in 2024 was Rep. Mike Collins (R-Ga.) buying meme cryptocurrency Ski Mask Dog Coin (CRYPTO:SKI), which led to the crypto soaring in value and later hitting all-time highs shortly<a href="https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/24/12/42330146/congressman-buys-meme-coins-ski-mask-dog-coin-climbs-in-value-after-disclosure-i-liked-the-coins-so-i-bought-them"> after the disclosure.</a>
A new filing shows Collins bought more after his last disclosure.
What Happened: The trading activity of <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/topic/congress-trading">members of Congress</a> continues to be closely followed by investors as stock purchases can come ahead of key information and potential gains.
While members of Congress likely don't have the same alleged insider information when it comes to cryptocurrency, trading activity in the sector warrants close monitoring, especially when it involves a meme cryptocurrency valued at around $225 million.
On Jan. 1, Collins disclosed that he purchased another $1,000 to $15,000 worth of Ski Mask Dog, adding to his previous disclosures in early December that he bought $2,000 to $30,000 worth of the meme coin.
The transaction, which can be viewed on <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/gov-trades">Benzinga's Government Trades page</a>, came on Dec. 3. That means that the same day that Collins' previous disclosed purchases began hitting the news, the Congressman was buying more of the coin.
Collins' latest trade was once again marked as unusual by several prominent social media accounts that track congressional trading activity.
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<li>"BREAKING: US politician Michael Collins has yet again bought crypto. He bought up to $15,000 of SKI MASK DOG, $SKI, crypto. Unusual," Unusual Whales <a href="https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1874845104076390422">tweeted</a>.</li>
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<li>"Congressman @RepMikeCollins just disclosed he bought more Ski Mask Dog on 12/3, the same day news of his first purchase broke and the coin rallied. So a Congressman single-handedly moved a market, then bought more, and disclosed it a month later," Congresstrading <a href="https://x.com/congresstrading/status/1874851774856884636">tweeted</a>.</li>
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Collins previously confirmed the purchase with Decrypt and also responded to a previous tweet from Unusual Whales with a meme of Pepe the Frog, a well-known image in the crypto community thanks to the meme cryptocurrency Pepe.
&#8220;I liked the coins, so I bought them,&#8221; Collins previously told Decrypt. &#8220;Washington and Wall Street have stigmatized emerging technology in the crypto ecosystem for far too long, and it&#8217;s about time that we start treating the industry with the respect it deserves.&#8221;
When asked about meme coins and if they need to be disclosed by members of Congress for trading activity, Collins said yes.
&#8220;Meme coins should certainly be treated as any other asset, digital or otherwise.&#8221;
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Why It's Important: Ski Mask Dog coin rallied in December after Collins first purchase was disclosed.
The coin hit an all-time high of $0.3639 on Dec. 5 after the Congressman's first purchase disclosure. The latest trade disclosure shows that Collins also bought more Ski Mask Dog coin on Dec. 3 ahead of the all-time highs.
Collins, who won re-election in the 2024 election, has previously disclosed buying and selling cryptocurrencies like Ethereum (CRYPTO: <a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/quote/eth/usd">ETH</a>), Aerodrome (CRYPTO: <a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/quote/">AERO</a>), Velodrome (CRYPTO: <a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/quote/">VELO</a>) and The Graph (CRYPTO: <a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/quote/">GRT</a>).
Collins' purchases of Ethereum have been larger in recent disclosures compared to the meme coin he recently bought. The congressman has also disclosed selling some of the cryptocurrencies in the past, which could make the recent meme coin buy one to watch in case he later shows he sold it after the recent gains.
Calls to ban members of Congress from buying stocks and options have grown, with President Joe Biden recently <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/24/12/42538504/biden-endorses-ban-of-congressional-stock-trading-nobody-in-the-congress-should-be-able-to-make-money-in-the-stock-market-while-in-office">endorsing a ban </a>on Congress trading.
When it comes to members of Congress buying and selling cryptocurrencies, there is less support and it is less mentioned in potential legislation.
&#8220;Nobody in the Congress should be able to make money in the stock market while they&#8217;re in the Congress,&#8221; Biden said, failing to mention cryptocurrency.
Members of Congress are currently allowed to buy and sell stocks, options, cryptocurrency and make other investments as long as they are disclosed in 45 days.
Collins' trade, which happened nearly 30 days ago and came as his past trade in the same coin may have led to the price soaring could spark interest in putting the same ban on cryptocurrency. With pro-crypto President-elect Donald Trump taking office later this month, more members of Congress could be looking to add cryptocurrency to their investment portfolios.
Ski Mask Dog, which began trading in 2024, is up 6% in the past day.
The meme cryptocurrency currently trades at $0.2246 at the time of writing Thursday, versus a one-month range of $0.1472 to $0.3639.
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Michael Garcia, Chief Executive Officer of Algoma, commented, "Despite market headwinds, our results for the quarter demonstrated solid operational execution, particularly in our plate business where production continued on its upward trajectory. While macroeconomic uncertainties persist in the steel sector, we remain positioned to capitalize on improving fundamentals as conditions normalize."

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Ingersoll Rand (NYSE:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/IR#NYSE">IR</a>) has outperformed the market over the past 5 years by 7.63% on an annualized basis producing an average annual return of 20.24%. Currently, Ingersoll Rand has a market capitalization of $36.48 billion. 
Buying $100 In IR: If an investor had bought $100 of IR stock 5 years ago, it would be worth $249.50 today based on a price of $90.52 for IR at the time of writing.
<h3>Ingersoll Rand's Performance Over Last 5 Years</h3>
<img src="https://www.benzinga.com/files/images/story/2025/1735857014_0.png" alt="comp_fig" />
Finally -- what's the point of all this? The key insight to take from this article is to note how much of a difference compounded returns can make in your cash growth over a period of time.
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If You Invested $100 In This Stock 5 Years Ago, You Would Have This Much Today

Running a small, family-owned business is already a challenge, but having a corporate giant like Dunkin&#8217; (NASDAQ:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/DNKN#NASDAQ">DNKN</a>) set up shop right next door takes it to another level. That's the reality for one coffee drive-thru owner, who recently <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/smallbusiness/comments/1hhes7t/i_own_a_small_family_owned_coffee_drive_thru/">shared</a> <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/real-estate/24/12/42727607/a-homebuyer-posts-were-not-falling-for-this-again-issuing-a-warning-to-fellow-house-hunters-on-local-boards">their frustration on social media and sought advice</a>. The post received significant attention, with over a thousand people offering support and suggestions.
&#8220;I&#8217;m honestly a little shook up and angry,&#8221; the post began. &#8220;Does anyone have any advice on how I should approach this or what I should be feeling?&#8221;
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The responses poured in, ranging from strategic advice to words of encouragement.
<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Turn Competition Into Opportunity</h2>
Several commenters pointed out that Dunkin&#8217;s decision to open nearby could actually validate the location&#8217;s potential. One user noted, &#8220;They thought the area was good enough for their third location, so it must be great for <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/markets/commodities/24/04/38237838/bad-news-chocolate-and-coffee-lovers-prices-are-only-going-higher">coffee</a>. Use that to your advantage.&#8221; By drawing more coffee lovers to the area, Dunkin&#8217; might unintentionally bring new customers to the local drive-thru as well.
<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Double Down on Quality</h2>
The overwhelming consensus was to focus on what you do best. &#8220;Make better coffee, which you probably already do, understand what chains can&#8217;t offer and offer that. Cleaner, more comfortable eating area,&#8221; one commenter advised.&nbsp;
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Others suggested emphasizing freshly made products, like pastries and specialty drinks, that big chains simply can&#8217;t replicate. &#8220;Dunkin&#8217; food and baked goods come packaged and frozen. A good local coffee joint that makes their food fresh every morning will get my business 100% of the time over a franchise like Dunkin, Starbucks or Tim Hortons,&#8221; said another.
<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Lean Into Local Roots</h2>
Being a family-owned business offers a competitive edge that corporations can't match. One advice was to highlight community involvement: &#8220;I would develop some strong talking points about how you&#8217;re local, family-owned, keep the money in the community, etc., where Dunkin&#8217; is a corporation that sends your community&#8217;s hard-earned money back to HQ.&#8221; Others recommended showcasing the personal side of the business, like the faces behind the counter or stories about how the shop started.
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Be Bold with Marketing</h2>
Several responses encouraged creative and even humorous marketing strategies. Ideas included putting up signs like &#8220;Support Local&#8221; or &#8220;Better Coffee, No Drive-Thru Lines.&#8221; One user suggested a tongue-in-cheek approach: &#8220;Put a sign out front: ‘Fresh 20oz coffee: $2.99 here. 20oz $4.99 coffee go there.'&#8221;
This small coffee drive-thru owner's story shows how hard it can be for small businesses to compete when big chains move in. But it also proves how creative and tough local business owners can be. As one commenter wisely said, &#8220;Don&#8217;t discount customer loyalty … a lot of folks don&#8217;t like big corporations coming in to try and hurt small, local businesses.&#8221;
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Insmed (NASDAQ:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/INSM#NASDAQ">INSM</a>) has outperformed the market over the past 10 years by 4.74% on an annualized basis producing an average annual return of 15.94%. Currently, Insmed has a market capitalization of $12.51 billion. 
Buying $100 In INSM: If an investor had bought $100 of INSM stock 10 years ago, it would be worth $455.70 today based on a price of $69.95 for INSM at the time of writing.
<h3>Insmed's Performance Over Last 10 Years</h3>
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Las Vegas Sheriff Kevin McMahill announced Thursday that investigators now suspect the <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/general/entertainment/25/01/42757028/tesla-cybertruck-ignites-outside-trump-international-hotel-in-las-vegas">explosion of a Tesla Cybertruck</a> outside the Trump International Hotel on New Year&#8217;s Day was likely a suicide.
Speaking at a news conference Thursday, McMahill revealed that evidence suggests the driver died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound moments before the vehicle exploded. A firearm was found at the driver's feet inside the charred vehicle, <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/01/02/las-vegas-explosion-tesla-cybertruck-trump-hotel-colorado/">according to</a> the Washington Post.
Authorities are still working to confirm the driver's identity, as the body was burned beyond recognition. Preliminary evidence, they said, points to 37-year-old Matthew Livelsberger of Colorado Springs. 
Livelsberger was a Special Forces soldier on leave from a mission in Germany at the time of his death. He first enlisted in 2006 and had served multiple deployments, including to Afghanistan, the newspaper reported.
The FBI, as part of its Joint Terrorism Task Force, is investigating the case, which included searching a Colorado Springs residence on Thursday connected to the incident, though no further details were provided. "This activity is related to the explosion in Las Vegas," the FBI said in a statement.
Tesla (NASDAQ:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/TSLA#NASDAQ">TSLA</a>) CEO Elon Musk said on X that Tesla&#8217;s senior team is involved and has shared video footage from charging stations across the country.
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<h2 class="wp-block-heading">Colleagues Shocked</h2>
Livelsberger's colleagues and former commanders expressed shock. Speaking on the condition of anonymity due to his work in the U.S. government, one soldier described Livelsberger as warm and caring, the Washington Post reported. 
Livelsberger held the rank of master sergeant and was assigned to the 10th Special Forces Group based in Colorado Springs.
Surveillance footage and Tesla data helped authorities track the Cybertruck's journey from Colorado to Las Vegas. The vehicle, rented in Colorado, arrived at the Trump Hotel around 7:30 a.m. Wednesday. It detonated an hour later. Video shared by authorities shows the truck, loaded with firework mortars and gas canisters, erupting in a fiery explosion near the hotel's entrance.
<h2 class="wp-block-heading">FBI Says No Link Between Las Vegas, NOLA Attack</h2>
Meanwhile, the FBI addressed concerns over potential links between this incident and a separate attack in New Orleans earlier this week. 
"There is no definitive link between the attack here in New Orleans and the one in Las Vegas," Christopher Raia, deputy assistant director of the FBI's counterterrorism division, said at a Thursday news conference on <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/media/25/01/42769136/turo-used-for-new-orleans-las-vegas-attacks-we-are-devastated-by-these-horrible-incidents">the New Orleans attack</a>.
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Key Tesla Inc (NASDAQ:<a class="ticker" href="https://www.benzinga.com/stock/TSLA#NASDAQ">TSLA</a>) analysts and influencers are out with their takes on the company's fourth-quarter delivery figures, which missed <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/trading-ideas/movers/25/01/42766117/tesla-stock-tumbles-on-q4-deliveries-whats-going-on">analyst consensus estimates.</a>
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Daniel Ives on TSLA: Wedbush analyst <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/topic/dan-ives">Daniel Ives</a>, who is one of the biggest Tesla bulls on Wall Street, shared his take on Tesla's fourth-quarter delivery figures.
"TSLA announced its Q4 delivery numbers of 495.6k vehicles, below the Street's whisper number of ~500k. While knee jerk stock will be down, we view these as respectable numbers with all of our focus on the 2025 growth story and autonomous vision. Buyers today on any sell-off," Ives <a href="https://x.com/DivesTech/status/1874825698088722761">tweeted</a>.
Ives maintained an Outperform rating on Tesla with a $515 price target, as <a href="https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1874825337894285750">shared </a>by Sawyer Merritt on X.
"We remain highly confident in Tesla's ability to accelerate delivery growth into FY25 with 20%-30% growth," Ives wrote in a new note.
Ross Gerber on TSLA: Tesla investor and Gerber Kawasaki Wealth and Investment Management CEO <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/topic/ross-gerber">Ross Gerber </a>took exception to the tweet from Ives above.
"Excuses. They used every discount they had to move vehicles and still couldn't. These Tesla numbers suck. No spin. Sorry," Gerber <a href="https://x.com/GerberKawasaki/status/1874829802097774881">tweeted </a>while sharing Ives' post.
Gerber went on to <a href="https://x.com/GerberKawasaki/status/1874830269154513235">criticize </a>Tesla's FSD v13 in another post and said the self-driving technology doesn't come close to Waymo's technology.
"No excuses FSD is not close."
Responding to a user who replied to Gerber's FSD post, the investment manager said, "close means nothing when it's people's life at risk."
"One can make excuses all day for Tesla but 2025 will be the prove it year… Can they grow sales? Can they grow profits ? Can they solve FSD? Can they make a new vehicle that is successful?&#8221; another Gerber <a href="https://x.com/GerberKawasaki/status/1874830913366048871">post </a>said.
Gerber <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/news/global/24/11/41999238/long-time-tesla-bull-rages-as-elon-musk-reportedly-backs-trumps-plan-to-ax-7-5k-ev-credit-insanity">recently took exception</a> to news that Tesla CEO Elon Musk backs the elimination of the $7,500 EV tax credit, calling it "insanity."
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Gene Munster on TSLA: Deepwater Asset Management co-founder <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/topic/gene-munster">Gene Munster</a> said the "small" miss by Tesla Thursday doesn't matter to the long-term investment case for the stock.
"While Elon is focusing investors on autonomy, EV's still matter given those cars are the foundation of autonomy," Munster <a href="https://x.com/munster_gene/status/1874825401236934951">said</a>.
The investor said the deliveries figure missed the Street consensus by around 1%.
"All eyes now shift to Tesla earnings on Wednesday, Jan. 29. Besides the usual focus on margins, investors will be listening for updates to Musk delivery expectations for CY25."
Munster said one of the key questions is what Tesla and other EV companies' demand will look like outside of tax credits.
"I believe we'll be exiting the EV winter in 2025, and the segment will grow around 15% in 2025."
With Tesla shares falling Thursday, Munster suggested that part of the three-month rally in the stock&#8217;s price may have been driven by emotion. Similarly, he attributed Thursday&#8217;s decline to emotional reactions as well.
"While I'm bracing for a further pullback going into the January 29th earnings, I continue to believe that shares are undervalued over the long-term given Tesla's doing more in AI than any non-native AI company." 
The Delivery Figures: Tesla produced 459,445 vehicles and delivered 495,570 vehicles in the fourth quarter.
The delivery figure missed a street consensus estimate of 506,763 units, which Tesla shared <a href="https://www.benzinga.com/trading-ideas/previews/24/12/42745852/tesla-q4-delivery-preview-will-2024-stock-gains-hold-as-growth-slows">ahead of the report.</a>
Tesla had deliveries of 484,507 in last year's fourth quarter.
With the new report, Tesla's full-year delivery total is now 1.79 million units for 2024, down from a record 1.81 million in 2023. Tesla needed to report fourth-quarter deliveries of around 515,000 units to beat the 2023 full year total.
Thursday's report was the first time Tesla's annual delivery total has declined on a year-over-year basis.
Tesla previously said it expected to post growth in vehicle deliveries in 2024 and fell shy of that mark.
The comments from Ives, Gerber and Munster highlight the importance of 2025 in getting the company back on track with vehicle growth and other upcoming catalysts.
TSLA Price Action: Tesla stock was down 6% to $379.28 on Thursday, versus a 52-week trading range of $138.80 to $488.54. Tesla stock was up around 62% in 2024.
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